Former Under Secretary for Border and Transportation Security
Pro to the question "Is the ACLU Good for America?"
"First of all, Laura Murphy of the ACLU is a good friend of mine. We've worked on a lot of issues together and I have enormous respect for [the ACLU]. And they bring a very valuable viewpoint to the debate. That's the kind of checks and balances that make our system work well."
Speech at the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations, Apr. 2004